Actually, let's be honest here, they are most likely the worst Toyota ever built.
These are my top 10 reasons for hating the mk3 supra. How do I know them so well? I worked on them for nearly 2 years, I drove both RHD and LHD mk3's with all sorts of different engines, stock and modified. I've spent a lot of time wrenching on them, and man do they suck badly. Let's begin:
10. Racing History: Let's be honest, there's really nothing special here, Bjorn Waldergard won one event with the MK3 supra in a Beijing Rally, and a few British fellows ran it in BTCC for a while. No real pedigree here.
9. Steering Angle: This is straight up a joke, it can't be real, no way it's even considered safe or functional to have so little steering lock for daily use. You think I'm kidding, but that's full lock below.
8. Weight: This really should be the #1 reason why there's no point in driving an mk3 Supra for any sort of 'sporting' purposes. What's that? you've never known what the weight of a mk3 supra was? Pictured below is a vehicle that weighs nearly identical, and actually produces more power.
(Note: 3800lbs, that's right, the CK short bed, short cab, not only weighed 3800lbs, but it actually produced 230hp and 300ft/lb of torque. Although the 1JZ variant is comparable)
7. Aftermarket Styling: Yes it's a slick looking exterior, simply put, it's the only selling point of the car. However, the aftermarket stuff? yeah, look below...
6.Targa Top: So you have an oval, pretty strong shape, egg's are 3d ovals and resist deformation pretty well. Then you cut a huge chunk out of it. Now you've got an easily crushable "C" shape. Thus is the Targa roof. How bad is it for chassis flex? Toyota actually had high grade, long threaded allen bolts to hold it square when in. When out, people started putting in targa supports to help reduce the horrible flex.
5. Steering Stablizer: The whole Geometry of the MK3 Supra suspension is fucked, and to help reduce bump steer, and ultimately any sort of driver feedback that's left after the hefty power steering, was a shock, bolted to the steering rack to help reduce...something. Road feel mostly, or resist the horrible bumper steer associated with #4. This Stablizer, much like the Cressidas (Although they had different front suspensions and shared the rear) resists and sometimes completely removes the affects of caster during cornering. It reduces the speed of turn by adding a dramatic amount of resistance.
4.Suspension Dynamics: These are just plain FUCKED. For some reason, Toyota decided that going from a single lower control arm McPherson strut setup, that had proven extremely well in the Corolla's, Celica's, and Celica Supras of the past, had to go, and in place a needlessly complex, and albeit poorly designed multi-link/double wishbone setup in it's place. You want to know how bad it is? Camber actually becomes positive on compression and negative on extension. Seriously look vvv.
3. Cock Riders: This isn't about the owners. The amount of people floating around the internet praising the mk3, simply because of it's loose relation to that of an mk4 Supra most of them having never owned a Supra in their lives. Although this makes me curious of the dynamic of buying and polishing a turd.
2. 7M/1G: Pretty weak sauce. So you buy a 3800lb driveway ornament and want to go fast. In North America, your faced with the 7M, and Japan, luckily enough got the 1jz, however, they too got the 7M and even worse, the 1G. Every other M series engine was decent, the 7M screwed that right up. It's head design is the fault. People will tell you it was a bad factory gasket, or under torqued bolts. However, even with those factors coverd, the real core of the issue was a bad head design. Getting past the common, and often debilitating issue of 7m's blowing gaskets (try pushing that thing!) The power of a 7m is a joke. Remember that Toyota publishes not the wheel horse power, but the crank. By the time that inline 6 delivers it's 200hp N/a to the rear, it's about 160hp, got a turbo? Roughly 190hp. Brutal for that amount of weight, but look out! There's even a worse motor: the 1GGTE. Although not plagued with head gasket failures and people thinking they can build the ultimate 7m, only to fail like the next guy, the 1ggte had it's own issues, spinning bearings, and well, being 2 liters! Such a tiny inline 6, and it needed twin turbo's just to make the 210hp. Unless your supra screwed and end up with an n/a 1GGE at 150hp.
And the Number 1 reason MK3 supra's are garbage! *Drum Roll*
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1. Burgandy:
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this guy prolly owns a crolla
what an asshole first of burgandy is much better then any of the ugly collors of modern cars and second my 7m pumps out an impressive 1000hp on stock turbo see my website for modlist
you are all a bunch of butthert lil pusys i dont know whats worse the guy who claims to have a 1000hp stock turbo or the lier with the alleged 500hp none turbo? the disquin is accully overestimating the pottentiel of these pathetic excuses of automobles. the 7m was lucy to crank out 150hp to the wheels by the time it got threw the unnessisarily heavy gearbox doble wishbone suspension was no were nere developed enofe for production cars. 3800lbs? iv herd figures as high as 4500lbs. and the guy cloging the page with movei scripts grow the hell up thats not going to change the fact that the mk3 is a slow ass terd. 230hp? i could nos my integra and get more power.
Umm I’ve owned both the Mk3 and MK4 personally. The Mk3 not meant to drift and all dat stuff BUT if you like to do tht with an MK3 that’s why you modify the stock car. Nothing comes rolling off the assembly line drifting or even drag racing. It’s up to the owners to choose what they want. U wanted a racing car out the lot maybe look into a Ferrari or Lambo,and even after,people twin turbo them. I don’t think it’s koo to bash a car because you cannot afford a out of the box race car. And the 150hp thing is just a opinion because we all know that’s not true at all. And the head gasket thing,I fixed mine and torqued it down right and NEVER failed on me as a daily 500hp. I mean if you’re a cheap mechanic or a person that uses cheap parts then you should expect it to be garbage. But the interiors no matter what color are super disgusting. Anyways just my opinion and my truth with tests I’ve done with 2 Mk3’s I’ve owned and worked on personally not by a mechanic or shop besides block. Nobody is ever satisfied BUT, me and a bigillion others love the car or what it is and not wanting it or compraring it to a out of the box race car. From what I know Toyota never claimed to do what a modified Supra these days can do, but u can always modify it yourself and not expect a fastback touring car to do what a Formula Drift Supra does without dropping loads of cash and/or buying cheap ass Autozone parts to mothafucking drift at a 90 degree angle. Nice somewhat facts/opinions with no true work besides maintenance.
All of you guys are idiots, jesus all cars have their flaws but the Supra is definitely not the worst car or garbage. Its a great car! This idiot doesn’t know what he’s talking about and probably posted this post while he was drunk and getting fucked in the ass by his boyfriend. Jesus your an idiot man